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		<dochead>Letter</dochead>
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			<title>
				<p>Carotid intima-media thickness and endothelial function: useful surrogate markers for establishing cardiovascular risk in patients with inflammatory rheumatic disease &#8211; authors' response</p>
			</title>
			<aug>
				<au id="A1">
					<snm>van Zanten</snm>
					<mnm>JCS Veldhuijzen</mnm>
					<fnm>Jet</fnm>
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					<insr iid="I2"/>
				</au>
				<au id="A2" ca="yes">
					<snm>Kitas</snm>
					<mi>D</mi>
					<fnm>George</fnm>
					<insr iid="I1"/>
					<insr iid="I2"/>
					<email>GD.Kitas@dgoh.nhs.uk</email>
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			</aug>
			<insg>
				<ins id="I1">
					<p>School of Sport and Exercise Sciences, University of Birmingham, Birmingham, B15 2TT, UK</p>
				</ins>
				<ins id="I2">
					<p>Department of Rheumatology, Dudley Group of Hospitals NHS Trust, Pensnett Road, Dudley, DY1 2HQ, UK</p>
				</ins>
			</insg>
			<source>Arthritis Research &amp; Therapy</source>
			<issn>1478-6354</issn>
			<pubdate>2008</pubdate>
			<volume>10</volume>
			<issue>3</issue>
			<fpage>404</fpage>
			<url>http://arthritis-research.com/content/10/3/404</url>
			<note>See related editorial by Veldhuijzen van Zanten and Kitas, <url>http://arthritis-research.com/content/10/1/102</url> and related letter by Gonzalez-Gay <it>et al</it>, <url>http://arthritis-research.com/content/10/3/403</url></note>
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				<pubidlist><pubid idtype="pmpid">18510783</pubid><pubid idtype="doi">10.1186/ar2410</pubid>
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				<date>
					<day>16</day>
					<month>5</month>
					<year>2008</year>
				</date>
			</pub>
		</history>
		<cpyrt>
			<year>2008</year>
			<collab>BioMed Central Ltd</collab>
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			<p>We thank Gonzalez-Juanatey and colleagues <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B1">1</abbr></abbrgrp> for their response to our editorial <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B2">2</abbr></abbrgrp>. They refer to their interesting recent work <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B3">3</abbr></abbrgrp>, reporting that carotid intima-media thickness (IMT) is associated with future cardiovascular events in patients with rheumatoid arthritis (RA). Although this is potentially important, because this was a longitudinal observational study conducted over a 5-year period of follow up, there are some shortcomings that may be of significance. The cohort (47 patients) and number of events (8) were small, allowing for statistical error. Patients who developed cardiovascular events not only had significantly higher carotid IMT but were also significantly older than those who did not; greater age is associated with both carotid IMT and cardiovascular event risk <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B4">4</abbr></abbrgrp>. This, together with other possible confounders, might have had a major impact on the results. The degree of systemic inflammation in patients when carotid IMT was assessed and during follow up was not presented. One of those patients who developed a cardiovascular event appears to have been an extreme outlier with a very high carotid IMT. Did that patient have a particularly high inflammatory load at the time of assessment?</p>
			<p>Carotid IMT has been shown to reduce in response to anti-tumour necrosis factor-&#945; treatment in patients with RA <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B5">5</abbr></abbrgrp>. This raises the question as to whether, in states characterized by high-grade inflammation such as RA, carotid IMT reflects current inflammatory load rather than more permanent, structural vessel changes. If the former is true, then a 'high' carotid IMT measured during a 'flare' of disease activity may not be a good predictor of future cardiovascular events. This question has not been addressed in the study conducted by Gonzalez-Juanatey and colleagues <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B3">3</abbr></abbrgrp>. Their study lends credence to the continuing use of surrogates of atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease in patients with RA. However, we believe that the short-term and long-term interplay between degrees of systemic inflammation and surrogates that are thought to reflect functional or structural vessel changes, as well as the overall metabolic state of the individual patient, requires more investigation in longitudinal studies designed specifically for this purpose.</p>
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				<p>Abbreviations</p>
			</st>
			<p>IMT = intima-media thickness; RA = rheumatoid arthritis.</p>
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			<st>
				<p>Competing interests</p>
			</st>
			<p>The authors declare that they have no competing interests.</p>
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